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Smoothies? All in one shakes?

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Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby Richard McG » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 am

Have a friend who has about two of these a day plus meals......are these for us guys you think? Seem nutritious and are all plant-based ingredients..........any expert comments? Could I introduce these to my 4/4 diet?

https://myvega.ca/products/vega-one-shake

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby Magda » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:25 pm

Richard McG wrote:Have a friend who has about two of these a day plus meals......are these for us guys you think? Seem nutritious and are all plant-based ingredients..........any expert comments? Could I introduce these to my 4/4 diet?

https://myvega.ca/products/vega-one-shake


Hi Richard McG,

Thank you sharing. I have seen this product in some health food stores but never looked at the ingredients list.
This is not an expert opinion, but I think the product looks pretty clean.
I have to point out that if you are following a ketogenic or low carbs diet, a scoop of this product provides 13g of carbohydrates…
I am also careful with ingratiates like: spirulina, chlorella or maca. They seem to create problems for some people. I also did not notice on the site in what forms are all the vitamins.
I noticed folate, which is almost better then folic acid.
If you decide to try it, just go slow, like with every new product or supplement you introduce to your body…

I hope this helps.

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby apod » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:28 pm

In the past, I was annoyed by Vega's heavy metal content. I would hope they've cleaned up their act, but for now I avoid their lineup.

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Xymogen, LivingFuel, and Thorne offer similar products that combine mineral + vitamins + phytonutrients with vegetable protein, but boy are they expensive. As a cheaper alternative, I'd go with MRM's version.

Every now and then I get on a smoothie kick. It's often a useful way for me to break a fast with a post-workout superfood sort of smoothie bowl before my main dinner. While eating within a narrow time window, I often find it to be an easy way to digest a lot of plant matter and its a nice protein alternative to meat. I imagine it has some effect on blood sugar / insulin, since everything is in rapid-absorption form, but in this context of sitting down for a meal with a 2mmol+ ketone level and glycogen depleted muscles, it's probably insignificant or maybe beneficial. I usually use whey protein for my base protein to get the cysteine for glutathione, and the lactoferrin / other peptides for immune health -- it also offers a bit more of an IGF1 bump than vegetable proteins, which can be useful for cardiovascular + cognitive health. When I'm looking to tame the effect, I combine marine collagen peptides with the whey, essentially watering down the BCAAs / methionine.

I often throw in raw beet, carrot, parsley, ginger, watercress, moringa, cranberries, wild blueberries, ceylon cinnamon, or whatever I have at my disposal. When you look at those pre-made drinks by comparison, the amounts are usually pretty ridiculous (like "500 milligrams of parsley, 1.5 grams of carrot...")

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby floramaria » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:17 pm

apod wrote:In the past, I was annoyed by Vega's heavy metal content. I would hope they've cleaned up their act, but for now I avoid their lineup.


Hi apod, thanks for this resource. I hadn't ever heard of the clean Label Project before. Went and looked up my former favorite meal replacement shake, Garden of Life Raw Meal, and it also only was a 1 star rating. Interesting.
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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby Richard McG » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:36 am

apod wrote:In the past, I was annoyed by Vega's heavy metal content. I would hope they've cleaned up their act, but for now I avoid their lineup.



Yikes, thanks for this resource. Didn't know to even check for metals. Thank you!!!

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby SunnySideUp » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:15 pm

Looked up Clean Label Project and got a little side-tracked with this page about almond butter:

https://www.cleanlabelproject.org/nut-b ... crylamide/

More info needed but It states "Acrylamide (a cancer-causing neurotoxin) is formed when starchy foods (chips, french fries, bread, roasted nuts and coffee) are heated to high temperatures and begin to turn brown. Water, sugars and proteins in foods combine to create colors, aromas and flavor. This browning and roasting produces acrylamide."
Peanut butter fared better than almond butter. One of the brands of almond butter tested had 8x the California Prop 65 acrylamide limit (sadly they didn't mention the brands they tested or serving size).

Roasted nuts and almond butter are/were some of the most satisfying elements of this diet. I hope someone can debunk this :)

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby apod » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:34 pm

SunnySideUp wrote:Looked up Clean Label Project and got a little side-tracked with this page about almond butter:

https://www.cleanlabelproject.org/nut-b ... crylamide/

More info needed but It states "Acrylamide (a cancer-causing neurotoxin) is formed when starchy foods (chips, french fries, bread, roasted nuts and coffee) are heated to high temperatures and begin to turn brown. Water, sugars and proteins in foods combine to create colors, aromas and flavor. This browning and roasting produces acrylamide."
Peanut butter fared better than almond butter. One of the brands of almond butter tested had 8x the California Prop 65 acrylamide limit (sadly they didn't mention the brands they tested or serving size).

Roasted nuts and almond butter are/were some of the most satisfying elements of this diet. I hope someone can debunk this :)

Raw soaked / sprouted low-temp nut butter FTW? (Blue Mountain Organics has some good ones -- they call their process "Better Than Roasted.")

I'd maybe interpret the results more as "foods that aren't brown from being exposed to high temperatures are likely to be healthier than those which have been roasted." Although, coffee comes to mind as being rich enough in acrylamide to warrant a prop-65 warning, but generally looks healthy in vivo. I suppose the full spectrum of components in the food balances out to a net positive.

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby Richard McG » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:51 am

apod wrote:In the past, I was annoyed by Vega's heavy metal content. I would hope they've cleaned up their act, but for now I avoid their lineup.

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As a cheaper alternative, I'd go with MRM's version.

I often throw in raw beet, carrot, parsley, ginger, watercress, moringa, cranberries, wild blueberries, ceylon cinnamon, or whatever I have at my disposal. When you look at those pre-made drinks by comparison, the amounts are usually pretty ridiculous (like "500 milligrams of parsley, 1.5 grams of carrot...")


Thanks, I just purchased a few bottles. Appreciate the help!

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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby mike » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:38 am

I noticed the other day that our Costco is carrying The Garden of Life product Keto Fit, which has better macros for someone trying to keep low carb...
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Re: Smoothies? All in one shakes?

Postby Richard McG » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:29 am

Ohhhh.....off to Costco this weekend!
Thanks, Mike!

This one also seems quite good.......Dr. Gundry and all :)
Anything else like this that isn't chocolate flavour from another source? Unfortunately, that is the only flavour they have....no berry or vanilla or plain.

https://gundrymd.com/proplant/?gclid=Cj ... X8QAvD_BwE


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